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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 16:32:00 -
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I want to know everyones thoughts about High Security Pirating. I know this is one thing that sets EVE apart from all the other games out there but for those of us that don't want to be involved in the wars, pirating or corporate politics high security systems should be a safe place for us to enjoy the game as well. This is suppose to be a ROLE PLAYING GAME meaning we chose the path we want to follow. I chose to stay out of harms way and got screwed anyway. If CCP is going to put Concord in the systems for protection against attacks such as these then they should hold some responsibility when they fail at providing the service they are there for. I would think the taxes and fees we pay in game should be payment enough to justify this sort of protection for players.
As a new player coming in to the game this would be very discouraging when you are just trying to get going.
To me... This is no different then one of the many scams in game.
Please leave your thoughts. I want to see what people really have to say. I believe if enough of the EVE community says something then maybe CCP will address this issue.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 20:11:00 -
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It is obvious to me that EVE is filled with all the deadbeats in the world. All of you feel is that criminal action should be allowed, even in high security space. I hope I see you on the streets some day! Wip the crap out of you and say sorry. Thanks for the wallet though.
I play eve to have fun. Having pirates and thugs running around is not my idea of fun. There are someof us that chose to avoid these areas because we are not PVP'ers. We are industrial, science and business people.
I admit I made a mistake. If CCP gives me back my stuff that is great but I can admit I took the chance. I can replace what I had. I just want to bring an issue up that I feel should be addressed by CCP. This is not just myself talking out my butt. There are others that agree with me on this.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 21:15:00 -
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OK... I want to get something straight here with all you! I am not WHINNING! I addmitted I took the risk.
This whole forum discussion was to discuss everyones thoughts about high sec pirating. Not the fact i lost my ****! I have plenty of isk to buy that crap over and over.
I just want opinions on the real topic at hand.
Ki An -- You must be a woman... The way you nit pick everyones thread... god I would stick a knife in my eye listening to that crap all the time.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: DILLI GAF on 18/07/2007 21:58:56 Edited by: DILLI GAF on 18/07/2007 21:55:42 Ki An Cant you take your WHINNING to another thread. This one is about High Security Pitrating.
Go away unless you have a real opinion. Stop the quotes also... your eating up all the page space!
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:16:00 -
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I want to point a few things out to people here.
1.Not all of us have time to spend drooling in front of our computer playing a game. This is why I have enjoyed EVE. There are many tasks I can perform with out having to be right there. I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way. 2.People buy High End Items in EVE all the time. If there is no safe place for us to obtain these items we may as well pull the plug on Concord and make the game the Wild West. 3.EVE is a unique environment which sets it apart. However, They do need to cater to all who play. If pirates want to *****and pillage then they should be allowed to do so in low sec systems. But if people like my self who are industrialist and business people we should feel like we have a game environment to play in as well. 4.I am sure this will happen again to many others. If we want to see EVE grow then I feel CCP should really look at this EXPLOIT! Other wise we should all camp in Jita and GANK everyone that comes in. This is the mother load. Unfortunately Large Corps control the game economy so us small guys trying to make it in the game are being EXPLOITED because of the suicide pirating.
My thoughtsą you donĘt have to like them. They are mine.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: DILLI GAF I want to point a few things out to people here.
1.Not all of us have time to spend drooling in front of our computer playing a game. This is why I have enjoyed EVE. There are many tasks I can perform with out having to be right there.
Moving lots of expensive stuff it not one of them.
Originally by: DILLI GAF 2.People buy High End Items in EVE all the time. If there is no safe place for us to obtain these items we may as well pull the plug on Concord and make the game the Wild West.
No, because only the idiots actually get killed with their expensive stuff. CONCORD are just fine for anyone with a modicum of sense.
Originally by: DILLI GAF 3.EVE is a unique environment which sets it apart. However, They do need to cater to all who play. If pirates want to *****and pillage then they should be allowed to do so in low sec systems. But if people like my self who are industrialist and business people we should feel like we have a game environment to play in as well.
No, they 'need' to cater to whomever they wish to cater to. EVE is what it is, not what you want it to be.
Originally by: DILLI GAF 4.I am sure this will happen again to many others. If we want to see EVE grow then I feel CCP should really look at this EXPLOIT! Other wise we should all camp in Jita and GANK everyone that comes in. This is the mother load. Unfortunately Large Corps control the game economy so us small guys trying to make it in the game are being EXPLOITED because of the suicide pirating.
It is not an exploit. Repeat until you cease being ********. It is not an exploit. EVE is growing just fine. Being an idiot is a big impediment in this game, fortunately there is ample supply of non-idiot gamers to keep CCPs finances turning over. Your dislike of this tactic does not automatically cause it to harm EVE.
Originally by: DILLI GAF My thoughtsą you donĘt have to like them. They are mine.
They're also wrong for the most part.
LIke I said... These were my thoughts not yours. You do not have to like them. I have a life outside the game so I dont regularly have time to fix my eyes on the screen as you.
Thanks for your input. It is noted.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ki An
Originally by: Renosha Argaron
Actualy frieghter gankings are regular and happen alot from what iv seen...and as for the insult part...im not the one claiming to have hands the size of dinner plate's...those where your words...i just elaborated a little....lol
Disregarding the rest of your post, half of which was coherent, I'd like to inquire a bit about this. You say freighter ganks are regular and happens a lot? Where is this? Is it in high sec? Do you have ANY proof what so ever, or am I to take your word for this? Define a lot?
/Ki
... oh, forgot: lol
Watch EVE TV....
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:35:00 -
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If I could donate you my credits I would. It is pretty boring but they did cover that in the first episode. Made mention that it is becoming a more common things now that freighters drop loot.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:57:00 -
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Edited by: DILLI GAF on 18/07/2007 22:57:21 Like I said... It seems as though EVE is corrupted with a bunch of prix. I do plenty of thinking and plenty of planning. Just because I do not feel like flying all the time doesnt mean I am lazy... I do plenty in game to achieve what MY goal is. So I got burned this time... Thats fine.. I have learned that EVE is just jammed pack full of idiots like yourself. This is why I have a select few friends and only deal with them in game. EVE is an ego driven environment that will fall apart. Do you really think that it is going to get better going down the road we are going? I dont see it... I could be wrong and will admit it when I am proven otherwise. But until then There are plenty of others that feel the same way I do.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 23:05:00 -
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Listen... I made the mistake of using auto pilot. No big deal. This whole discussion was brought on to get opinions. Not insults on how stupid i was or anyone else for that matter. I just wanted to see what everyone else thought about this and see what I have to look forward to.
I will change how I play. I am not quiting because of a small setback. No big deal.
Think about my name... DILLI GAF Do you know what it stands for?
Do I Look Like I
Give A F***
Its just a game guys/gals.... Lighten up. Just tell me your thoughts... thats it. I took the final blow not you.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sean Dillon Did I meet ypur main in uedama last week?
Dont know... who would that be anyway?
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 23:38:00 -
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Thank you all for your input. I have learned one thing here. EVE is not going to change. EVE is going to turn in to a corrupt community. So I suppose the only way I am going to gain in game is to take advantage of this concept.
No worries about opening up myself to being targeted... This character is gone. I realized that when i posted this thread. I will begin again and learn from everything you all have taught me today.
Good luck to you all and keep flying... one day it may be me at the other end painting you with my target painter.
Later and good night!
DILLI GAF is dead after tonight.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.18 23:59:00 -
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I will translate... he is Minmatar so I will help.
Blue Print + Secure Can = Safety
Put your BPO/BPC in secure can so pirates cant scan. Not 100% but better then nothing.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.19 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rexxar Civire The system is not broken what so ever.
I lost a gank fitted raven and the loot I was going after blew up as well. I also took a risk that the Thanatos Blueprint was an original. ( there is no way to tell the difference via scanning )
So looking at it this way , ... its clear your mistake by autopiloting a Coercer through high sec only caused us both to lose. Suicide ganking is a very risky bussiness, especially when you use battleships.
For those that are unaware , ... there is no tanking concord , ... you get locked , .. you lag , ... and you are in a pod. Because i had torps fitted i almost didn't finish the job /thanks thrasher alt.
In the end i think i about broke even with what dropped , .. i might have lost a little. Either way i got shafted on the drops , ... and that is a functional risk.
You certainly learned not to autopilot billions again. I learned that i need to have my painters fitted
Rex
No worries M8... It is a game. I have just never been in that situation so it took me by surprise. I can replace the bpo so no biggie. Maybe after i creat a new character i can contact you and learn from you on how to adapt to the NEW EVE. Well it is new to me so dont go off on that.
Mind me asking what you did come up with. I cant even remember what I had. Good thing I left all my other bpos behind in station for later transport. :)
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.19 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ballistic CEO This post can be answered in 2 words:
Transport Ship.
use the search filter you will find hundred of whiner threads called "IM QUITTING CAUSE I GOT GANKED IN HI SEC WAAAH!"
Im getting a little tired of CCP caving to pressure from people such as yourself that havent taken the time to ensure their own safety and i hope this thread gets what it deserves in teh CCP offices: a good laugh.
in parting here are another 2 words:
you fail.
Here are 2 words for you...
Piz off
You haven't read all the threads... it is obvious... no whinning going on... i admitted fault. I just wanted to see what everyone else thought about the issue.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.19 00:27:00 -
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I am done with this discussion guys.
For those who have posted their opinion on the issue Thank You.
There is no need for insult to injury. I lost a lot on this deal and yes it was a learning experience.
I will continue playing EVE because I like the game. I however will take a new approach to the game in how I go about my business.
Thanks again for those who can have a true discussion.
FLY SAFE... There are a lot of CRAZT Fricking People out there!
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.19 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kim Chee
Originally by: IONZ Petition Body I've been playing EVE for a long time without really understanding it. I assume that CONCORD in EVE must act just like "The Police" in "Real-Life", because I can't imagine anything different. My shiny new alt got killed and I lost a bunch of stuff to a high-security pirate. WAAAAAH! That's not FAIR!
/me pats old n00b on the head.
CONCORD are not law enforcement officers, sworn to protect and serve. They are peace-keepers. Their job is to maintain the peace by stopping conflicts. If you shot someone, you are prevented from being able to shoot anyone by having your weapons (your ship) removed.
If someone tricked you into shooting them, or if one of your drones (for which YOU are responsible) decided to shoot someone, then YOU are the aggressor and YOU will be controlled.
If someone killed you by using a suicide ship... well... they are no longer a threat since they're dead. Too bad their associate picked up all your loot, but hey... too bad you didn't have an associate to sa***uard it.
Moral of the story: don't fly what you can't afford t o lose. If you think you look a bit too juicy, perhaps you should hire someone with a freighter and escorts to move your stuff for you.
Hey knumb knutz... If you are going to quote someone why dont you use what was actually said. The quote you are referring to never existed.
You know... People really are stupid in the EvE community. There was never any whinning going on. I lost my cargo. I got killed. Oh well. I can replace what i lost.
The purpose of this thread was to get feed back on the over all issue. I am not the only one bringing this up so it was to get feed back.
I have learned that the game has changed and I will adapt. no big deal.
I bet most of the people in this thread couldn't say I lost a Thanotos BPO and still be ok. I am financial well off so I am not worried about the loss. I was more concerned about where EvE is going. I wanted to learn what everyone had to say about the situation.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.20 00:05:00 -
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To be honest with you... I had heard of suicide ganging but dint really know the details. I was always under the impression concord was there to prevent that.
My stupidity... I learned and have now started reading more in the forums. I never got involved in the forums prior so a lot of knowledge has been gained recently.
But if you think about it... Who do suicide gankers look for? I figured a Destroyer... No one would go after it. It was a disguise. Oh well... They got me this time. I garuntee it wont happen again though.
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DILLI GAF
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Posted - 2007.07.20 00:24:00 -
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Here is where I am uneducated as well. When you scan someone don't you have to lock them? Doesn't this act as a form of aggression and Concord would react to it?
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